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Lenn said on November 7th, 2008

Tim: You know what…I think you’re right. Perhaps this entire topic was manufactured in the same way that Rockaway controversy was.

Great insight…as Gary V would say…you crushed it with this one.

Patrick Llerena said on November 7th, 2008

Credibility is in the eye of the beholder. Do you get your news from Keith Olberman or Sean Hannity? Do you relax to Beethoven or Santana? Do you wear fabulous Red Velvet or a ratty sweatshirt? Do you believe in Evolution or in the story of Creation…and if so, the first story or second one that follows right after? In the Bloggosphere, credibility may lie exclusively in the number of subscribers and hits or the number of Facebook Friends or Twitter followers. De gustibus non ist disputandum!

Tim, I find your suggestion to move on most credible. Let’s all get writing, reading, and commenting! Cheers!

Catie said on November 7th, 2008

I agree – let’s drop this debate. It has become a tedious subject. The end result of wine blog credibility will not be about any panel, guidelines, widget badge, or endless discussions – - it is going to be determined by the readers. I often laugh (to hide my often frustration) when I read about wine blogging credibility. Who exactly is going to be the wine blogger’s example of fine and credible journalism? Print? A wine magazine? A wine magazine who gives out restaurant awards? If you get my drift…

I say, if a wine blogger is really credible they will prove it by their readership and basically minding to their own wine blog (business) and not worry what someone else is blogging. I have seen it too many times in life – no matter what the situation – - those with no or limited credibility will often destruct themselves quicker than what any panel of peers will do or dictate.

Cheers,
C~

RichardA said on November 7th, 2008

I don’t think conversations and debates about these issues is going to end until people on both sides stop taking pot shots at each other. Stop making it into an Us vs Them battle. Stop negative stereotyping and ad hominem arguments. Neither side has clean hands and neither side has the moral high ground.

Here is one example, and there are plenty of examples that can be found elsewhere too, in other blogs and print media. Tim stated: “Regardless of credibility, competence, integrity or other measures of elitism that old-world media luddites and highbrow wine bloggers alike will spew about venomously to discourage new wine bloggers, you can still have influence.”

That sentence was completely unnecessary, a negative attack and stereotype that will likely perpetuate division and animosity. I think it significantly lessened the impact and efficacy of his entire argument. If someone else referred to “new wine bloggers” as “jealous, whiny, wannabee attention-seekers” there would be an uproar. We should be above such petty name calling. If we don’t like when others denigrate us, we should not resort to the same behavior.

Dirty said on November 8th, 2008

Tim-

Good points as always.

People need to remember, there’s no entrance exam to be a printed / traditional media wine critic either.

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